Skye and I went to dinner after Windrush, and Skye was pretty adamant that the hobby needs to think hard about going back to holding shows in homes, and start being more specialized. She'd had a lot more fun at that show than she'd had in years. I agree, somewhat, and here is sort of how our discussion went.
I'm not sure that holding all shows in homes is going to be a viable thing. Not everyone has the space. I've got a more or less finished basement that I could host a small show in, but I think I could have 10 people, max. I also do not think I could pull off a performance show in my basement (unless, maybe, it was limited to a single discipline) due to my space constraints. Even at Kate and John's, parking was an issue. Not everyone is going to have spouses or roommates that are as supportive of the hobby either.
However, given the financial crunch everyone is feeling these days, a free show space, even a small one, is a huge advantage when planning a show, especially a new one. A hall around here can run from $100 a day to nearly a thousand, depending on if you've got a friendly fire hall or a hotel to deal with. You don't really have a time limit on a home show. I've been to shows where the staff is literally breaking down tables as you are packing up your stuff, and when you are showing custom glaze china, this is a really scary proposition. Perhaps going small and having more frequent shows is the more healthy thing for the hobby right now. Certainly, "free show space" as opposed to "hundreds of dollars out of pocket before you have a single entry" is more palatable to a new showholder.
I do think that shows are going to have to specialize rather than try to serve all comers. I know back when I started showing, most people were showing OF Plastic Breyers. Stone didn't exist. Few people had chinas, and the whole hobby ceramics movement didn't exist. Neither did the hobby resin movement. There were customs, but most people had one or two (and nearly everyone had one or two). There were not enough different types of horses to support different divisions like we have now--customs and OF showed side by side in performance (and I can recall discussion about if it would be worth splitting the OF and CM for the first NAN!) and if there were chinas, they showed with the Breyers, and usually beat them. Sometimes the customs showed with the plastics too. Now shows are at least split OF and custom. OF is probably split into china and plastic, but plastic might be split by manufacturer too. Customs may be shown with artist resins, but maybe not...and then there is custom glaze china. And performance. In order to support the number of judges you need to cover all these divisions, you need to have a big show, so you need to rent a big place. It has to be a big deal--time, space, and personnel--to be viable.
Specializing shows, if its by media (all china, all plastic, all custom) or by breed/type (we've had a sport horse show, a stock horse show, a pony show, and there is a draft/pony show scheduled for later this spring) can be smaller. You can have a more varied class list (Shetland, Welsh, Other UK, Gaited ponies and so on, as opposed to the typical UK/non UK split seen here) so you have more classes that are smaller, and therefore faster to judge. You don't need a large staff to run the show. Since you're already planning a small event, you can plan on using a small space. I'm toying with an Arabian only show as a result of this discussion because I think that is the one breed everyone has a few of, and would be willing to bring out. If the class list was split out--say Stone Arab stallions, Breyer Arab stallions, Breyer Arab Mares, Stone Arab Mares, Plastic Geldings, Foals under 6 months, Foals over 6 months, Artist resin stallion, AR Mare, and so on...you could have 2 dozen halter classes that could be full, but not 30 horses deep, and use entry fees to pay for lunches and maybe trophies or something, instead of a big hall that you have a time limit on.
Another benefit of specializing shows is you could have more of them on weekends next to each other, and they need not eat each other. I realize that none of us can go to shows every single weekend, no matter where they are held, but if show holders co-ordinate, they could serve different populations of showers (say, OF plastics and china, groups that rarely cross lines) on different consecutive weekends. Two or more shows could occupy the same space at the same time, much like China Buffet and NEMHC do. A huge do it all show every month is just not a functional model any more for most show holders or showers. We've outgrown that paradigm, possibly even at our national event.
Smaller shows that don't run a whole day also give room for other stuff--the "farm tour" we got at Windrush, time for seminars (which people in Region X finally appear truly ready for without needing to have them in conjunction with a show) and the like. I'd LOVE to do a model horse retreat--no need for competition, but rather we can have judging clinics, critique performance set ups before having them go live, or possibly hash out what we actually do want as a written set of rules or judging guidelines for our hobby (rather than soley relying on rules for live horses that don't truly serve what we do well.)
So what up guys? We've been experimenting with more specialized shows for a few years now, and the changes NAMHSA made a few years ago really do open us up to all sorts of novel formats. What's your region doing, and where do you see the hobby going?
Cursed quest
48 minutes ago
Can't speak for my region - we have one state without a show, one with one show a year and then the "bastions" of the region! So, really, for half the region, a show is a good thing and never mind the format. The rest play well in their own sandboxes.
ReplyDeleteWe have done the whole specialty show thing - heck, I've ran specialty shows, with the last being an all collectibilty/workmanship show. And...if you build it, some will come.
There's a lot of specialty shows in my corner of the region and the majority do break even or better. However, they do because of careful show hall size management, lean awards (all paper ribbons/certificates) and rarely a judge who is not also the show holder. Oh, and the occasional great donation from a great hobbyist.
The only "division" that we have had problems getting entrants (and therefor costs back) for has been performance. At an all divisions show we can't always get a class of 10 in anything but Arab Costume and Western Pleasure. It can be hard to get a specialty show holder to take one in the shorts financially to be "fair".
After all this time doing the specialty shows, I find I miss the big shows. I love my small show holders and will always support them but I don't think smaller entrant numbers in more intimate settings is always necessary. I *like* having larger than 10 horse classes (am I the only one?!), I haven't an issue with all the multiple rings and I never have to mentally justify only taking three horses because that's all I have of that particular type.
For shows I like being able to get the "most bang for my buck." For me it's a 4 hour drive to most of the shows, so unless I have a good class list that covers a fair amount of the models I like to show, smaller specialty shows don't do much for me. But I love the performance classes so I'm apt to drive for an all performance show and just show a handfull of horses.
ReplyDeleteBut I do like the idea of a model horse retreat. I've tossed out the idea in the past about doing one in Reg 10 (VT specifically) but never got any good response. It would be interesting to hear if people really would be interested in something like this during the summer months (the spot I'm thinking of is a college so summer would be a must).
I think it depends on the area that shows are held. It is easy for us in Region X to hold specialty shows and know we will have a fairly decent crowd because everyone is fairly close together. It is not as easy for other areas of the country.
ReplyDeleteI had a blast at Kate's show. I'd love to go to more shows like that and I'd like to host one myself at our home for about 10 people. It was much more social, which I really loved.
I also do like the big shows as well and wouldn't want to see those get lost. I think a balance of the two might be nice.
I live in the same area as Teresa. As she said, we have a lot of specialty shows. I don't show OF or China at all. I stick to the Resin and Performance shows exclusively. As a result, there are a bunch of local hobbyists that I don't know AT ALL. Our paths don't cross because we go to entirely separate shows for most of the year. This is the main thing I don't like about specialty shows.
ReplyDeleteI would really like to see more non showing hobby events. We've had a few of these in the past and I always enjoy them. I get to meet new people and (sometimes) learn new things.
Interesting discussion!
I would be willing to hold a retreat during the summer along with our NAN Prep Day and Pool Party. What else should we offer. I would love to delve into some planning around the future of an amateur division and mentoring young showers.
ReplyDeleteKate Cabot